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Sunday, June 12, 2005
CNU XIII - No items for The Gutter
The Gutter had lots of news from the recent AIA Convention in Las Vegas. But there's no controversial news to report from CNU XIII in Pasadena — we're all just having a good time.
Continuing its policy of embracing what works, the CNU gave an urban design award to Frank Gehry (who frequently criticizes New Urbanism), listened to rising California Democrats Los Angeles Mayor Elect Antonio Villagairoso and California Treasurer Phil Angelides (developer of an early New Urban project), and talked to some conservative Republicans who wrote a nice reply in the OC Register (below).
Sunday, June 12, 2005
Orange County Register
Southern California remains a highly urbanized, growing region. Questions of how best to accommodate the new population are perhaps the most significant public policy matter local governments face.
In our view, the pre-eminent issue is freedom. Individuals need to be able to choose the lifestyle that suits their needs and budgets, whether that's a suburban house on a large yard or a condo in a high-rise in a densely packed downtown. Developers need the latitude to respond to such consumer choices.
One influential new ideology is called New Urbanism. The academics, planners and developers who promote it argue that suburban "sprawl" is unhealthy and an assault on the environment. They want to preserve open space, reduce car dependence and create higher-density urban areas.
The Congress for the New Urbanism on Saturday concluded its annual conference, this year in Pasadena. The congress refers to Orange County as "the epitome of sprawl." A few delegates visited Fullerton and Brea last Thursday to assess how those two cities revived their deteriorating downtowns.
The New Urbanists argue that highways lured people out of cities, and that explains cities' decline. We'd question whether the highways caused sprawl or whether people chose to move to the suburbs to flee foolish government policies that oftentimes made living in cities undesirable.
New Urbanists claim that they are only suggesting a design alternative, and want to work within the market. But we've seen too many instances of New Urbanist ideas being imposed by government in the form of growth controls that undermine property rights, debt spending to build new downtowns and the abuse of eminent domain to clear away properties for the new plans. We also fear that New Urbanists want to use government to expand low-income housing and to create new zoning requirements that make it untenable to build the single-family homes most people prefer.
Orange County is one of the finest places to live in the world, offering an unparalleled quality of life. It's not just the weather but our suburban lifestyle that is so appealing. If this is the epitome of sprawl, then it's hard to see a problem.
Nevertheless, New Urbanists make some reasonable points. They complain about zoning requirements that restrict the ability to build high-rises. They complain about the abuse of eminent domain to build big-box stores. They support school vouchers as a way to encourage families to move back into central cities. We agree with all of those points.
To the degree to which New Urbanists promote market alternatives to current designs and deregulation of land use, we'll defend them. To the extent that they promote subsidies, growth controls and other coercive features, we'll oppose.
Copyright 2005 The Orange County Register
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I respectfully dissent with David's view. Last week I saw the Disney Hall for the first time, during a CNU tour. I and several other urbanists thought it was great. Yes, the worship of starchitects entices students to create splashy sculpture while disdaining the craft of designing good background buildings and urban patterns to properly set off the more spectacular civic sites. But that fact doesn't mean this is a bad or anti-urban building. If interesting buildings bring people into the city even just to gawk, they perform a civic function, don't they? More important, this one actually behaves properly. It comes to the sidewalk. It has glass along the frontage. You can tell where to enter. It gives pedestrians fascinating details and surfaces to enliven their walk around the block. And there's a charming meld of private and public space among the hidden gardens and children's amphitheatre in back.
Look, if you want to see bad urbanism (and, by the way, bad photography), see the aerial shot of Bunker Hill at the top of the link John provided.
Left side: bad. Right side: good.
Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Sorlien at Jun 13, 2005 9:55:02 AM
Having plenty of "Wow Factor" does not ensure good urbanism, and the Disney Hall is a perfect illustration of that. (A lesson Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott would do well to keep in mind.)
Disney Hall's exploded-shrapnel forms are eye-catching, unique -- and thoroughly hostile to passing pedestrians. Up close from the sidewalk, the Disney Hall is blank, boring and glaringly hot. Its titanium panels feel like thin, silver spray-painted fiberglass.
If the ability to discern an entrance is a criterion on which awards are based, I suggest the bar has been set pathetically low.
Posted by: Laurence Aurbach at Jun 13, 2005 8:10:08 PM
Really odd I can't finad anything more about this award in Google as it would seem to me to be at least slight newsworthy. John, is your post hearsay or did you actually hear the award given? I would like to see the documentation.
Posted by: David Sucher at Jun 16, 2005 9:54:08 AM
I was there. So were LJ and Sandy.
It's been discussed on the pro-urb list by CNUXIII co-chair Stefanos Polyzoides.
Posted by: john massengale at Jun 16, 2005 10:58:49 AM
Sandy, a minor quibble: The picture isn't aerial as such. It appears to be taken from somewhere inside the LA County Courthouse.
This is perhaps the biggest problem with picturing the site as being "urban". Yes, it's in downtown, but it doesn't get much foot traffic as such, mainly because there are few places for pedestrians to be coming from, and few immediate places for them to be going to. Across the street to the right, with the columns, is the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion (part of the older County of LA Music Center) -- that's pretty much going to remain a destination of its own. The County Courthouse gets a fair amount of traffic, from jurors on their lunch break (such as myself, once) but it's unlikely the LA Phil will schedule concerts to fit the jurors' schedules. The Museum of Contemporary Art (designed by Isozaki) is just down the street, but again, it's mostly a destination of its own.
So I just don't see much interaction happening here.
Posted by: Hal O'Brien at Jun 17, 2005 6:47:48 AM
Hal, you're right about the surroundings, but we can hardly blame Gehry for that. It was my first visit to downtown LA and it was obvious they have some serious infill and traffic calming work to do up there on Bunker Hill. Our CNU tour guide said they were planning to create a huge common stretching from the Disney Hall down to the historic core. I think that's a fabulous idea. The two areas need to be connected, and walkable.
From USA Today, 2003:
"Outside of rejuvenating the downtown business climate, Disney Hall promoters have an even higher goal: getting Angelenos back downtown not only to visit, but to live and work. The hall is just the latest building in a bigger plan to build high-end urban condos, trendy converted warehouse loft-style apartments, restaurants and a park within eyeshot of the Disney Hall, says multimillionaire Eli Broad, founder of KB Home."
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Posted by: Sandy Sorlien at Jun 18, 2005 4:22:17 PM
Sandy,
Is it possible to separate good intentions about urbanizing downtown LA and whether a concert hall there is a good idea -- both things I support completely -- with the issue of the success of Disney Hall as piece of urban design? It seems to me that one can like the planning goals for the area, including siting a concert hall there -- though the idea of a "culture distruict" is silly -- and even agree that Disney Hall is a diverting piece of architecture but yet that Disney Hall is largely a failure as urban design?
Posted by: David Sucher at Jun 18, 2005 9:30:28 PM
